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Florissant Council Discusses Reducing Utility Tax Rate

Council members also talk about refinancing bonds, charter review during Monday's work session.

members received good financial news and discussed reducing one a tax as a result.

During a Monday , Finance Director Randy McDaniel told the council that projected for the rest of the year, Florissant would come about $760,000 ahead of its budgeted utility tax receipts.

While putting together the 2011 budget, McDaniel projected the city would receive $5.7 million from the revenue. On Monday, he said Florissant likely would wind up with $6.4 million from utility taxes.

Through July, tax collection is $600,000 ahead of projections due to utility rate hikes and higher bills, he said.

The city raised the utility tax from 5 percent to 7 percent last year as the council struggled to balance its budget.

“I understand we have budget issues, but I’d like to look at decreasing the utility tax,” Ward 1 Councilman Tim Lee said.

McDaniel said lowering the tax by 1 percent would bring revenue down to about $6 million, still $300,000 ahead of projections.

Councilwoman Karen McKay, Ward 7, suggested lowering the residential rate to 6 percent but keeping the commercial rate at 7 percent.

“We pay our fair share of utility taxes as business owners, but I can also use them as tax deductions, whereas a resident cannot,” McKay, who owns a hair salon, said.

McKay pointed out that during the 1990s, city officials promised to lower the utility rate to 3 percent in return for the city passing the capital improvement sales tax. Although the tax was lowered initially, it was raised throughout the years back to 7 percent, the voter-approved maximum.

Refinancing Equals Energy Savings

The city also might save money by refinancing bonds due to the low interest rates available.

McDaniel and bond counsel Landon Baine of Piper Jaffray Cos. said the city can refinance bonds from its current 5.75 percent interest to 3.25 percent interest and would save the city about $1.3 million to $1.4 million in payments annually, McDaniel said.

Council members favored using savings on payments to finance a series of capital improvements suggested by Public Works Director Lou Jearls.

The city would use the extra funds to pay off the debt, leaving a savings of about $709,000.

In turn, city council members would use those funds to install more energy-efficient heating and cooling units at the and community centers, , , the government building and the .

Jearls projected the total cost at about $1,052,000.

The energy savings on the projects would pay for themselves throughout the course of five to 18 years, according to a document Jearls handed out.

The plan would include building a second salt storage facility at .

Jearls said payback on the facility is two years.

“It costs us two or three times more to buy salt during the winter,” he said.

“We save money two ways,” Mayor Tom Schneider said. “We save on the bond payments, and we save on energy.”

Charter Review

Council members discussed dates for the council’s charter review, how members might go about the review and hiring an independent facilitator for the process.

Schneider suggested that council members go through the charter, write out any changes they would like to see and discuss them together.

“Then, we can proceed with any that seem to have merit,” Schneider said.

The council also would consider changes suggested by residents.

Council President Keith English of Ward 4 suggested going through the charter in thirds, reviewing sections 1-5 during the first meeting; then sections 6-10 and 11-14 in subsequent sessions.

English asked council members to submit dates in early October when they could meet.

The last time the council reviewed the 50-year-old city charter was 1987.

RM August 12, 2011 at 04:17 pm
I think reducing the utility tax in steps is appropriate unlike the ubrupt raise from 5% to 7%. A reduction to 6% would seem inline , although Ms. McKay's suggestion to leave the business rate at 7% appears reasonable on the surface, aren't we trying to attract business to Florissant? I don't know how much businesses pay attention to utility tax rates or how our city stands in comparison to other neighboring cities competeing for these businesses, but perhaps that should be researched. I know that looking around Florissant at the vacant storefronts both small and large is rather scary!
RM August 12, 2011 at 04:21 pm
On the Charter Review, why do I still get the impression that the Mayor and the Council are trying to keep the review and discussions behind closed doors away from the citizens? Can't this be done in an open forum?
Joe Scott (Editor) August 12, 2011 at 04:28 pm
The Charter Review is unlikely to be held behind closed doors. It does not fall within the parameters of a closed executive session meeting under the Sunshine Law. As a with any meeting, the city will be required to notify the public of the time and place and allow public access.
FloRes August 13, 2011 at 02:01 pm
Glad to hear that revenues are up, but how responsible is it to lower the utility tax (which I don't enjoy paying either) when the city is still not financially sound? Should those funds be used to fully staff the city which has not been replacing staff as they retire to cut the budget. I bet the police dept. has a few things they need. Have all city employees, including police, been put back to full pay since the cut 2 - 3 years ago...how about putting them back to full pay? Lee and McKay are both up for re-election next year and it just seems like a ploy 8 months before the election to say "I cut your taxes". Fix EVERYTHING first, then cut taxes.
Elizabeth O'Fallon August 14, 2011 at 02:33 am
I would love to see the utility tax reduced for residents. It think if we have a surplus in that area then the tax should be lowered. I'm sure there are many other areas of the budget that can be gone through in a creative manner and costs can be cut. I don't think spending additional funds for extra equipment or staff is wise at this time when ordinary folks are having to cut back so much in their own budgets--why should government should be treated differently than our personal households? Our taxes are very high compared with other cities, consider our real estate taxes for instance. My family pays more in real estate taxes on our modest house in Florissant than my aunt does living in a nicer house in Creve Coeur. We need to make Florissant an affordable place for people to live and raise their families.
FloRes August 15, 2011 at 02:24 pm
Mrs. O'Fallon is you read the break down on your real estate tax bill or your personal property tax bill you will see that the City of Florissant does NOT receive any of those funds. You live in the Hazelwood School District and that is why your tax bill is so high. The City of Florissant receive its revenue from sales taxes as a pool city in the county, the utility tax, muncipal court fines and permit fees paid to the city, not from anyone's real estate or personal property taxes.
Elizabeth O'Fallon August 15, 2011 at 08:17 pm
As a taxpayer for many years, I am WELL aware that most of my money from my tax bill goes to the local school district. As a candidate for elected office this was one of the #1 complaints I heard from residents that they were paying too much in taxes. Many of them thought the amount we pay in taxes for our local schools is way too high. With all things being considered, if we want to keep folks from moving OUT of Florissant we need to lower any taxes that we have to power to lower to ease the burden on Florissant residents.
FloRes August 15, 2011 at 08:39 pm
Everyone thinks their taxes are too high, it's the American way. How many of those people complained about their property taxes? Plenty I bet. How many of them actually complained about the utility tax? Few to none I bet. As a candidate for office did you explain to them that the City of Flroissant does not have a property tax OR did you just promise to lower taxes like so many other candidates?
I believe in fiscal responsibility. I also believe that you do not cut the utility tax until your entire house is fiscally sound. To cut a source of revenue while other areas of your budget suffer is irresponsible governing.
J Carney August 15, 2011 at 11:08 pm
FloRes, how many residents were even aware their utility taxes increased? How many even know the utility tax rate? Probably less than the amount of voters in any given election. Residents don't notice hidden or included taxes on their utilities or even general sales tax. It's only when faced with a tax bill that everyone must face reality. Why is it cell phone companies offer a $49 package but with the hidden government imposed fees and taxes added on the plan is about $15 or more making the plan $65? When a resident's utilities taxes increased last year, residents took it as an increase from the utility company.
Also FloRes many municipalities have their own fire department and we pay separately for the fire department. Everyone has school district taxes on tax bills. Not everyone has fire districts on their bills.
Elizabeth O'Fallon August 15, 2011 at 11:11 pm
Obviously we have a difference of opinion on taxes...I was very clear with residents about my opinion on lowering the utility tax. http://florissant.patch.com/articles/budget-utility-tax-florissant-council-candidates-answer-your-questions
RM August 16, 2011 at 01:16 am
Perhaps I'm missing the point however when I elect representatives or vote on tax issues, I expect a certain degree of honesty. It is already hard enough to determine what you are voting on because of the use of tricky wording of propositions but if I pay a utility tax then I don't expect a surplus of that money to be used for anything else. Refund it if not needed and present your case for what is needed and make your case, if it is just then I would vote for it as I too beieve in fiscal responsibility but not robbing peter to pay paul like our federal gopvernment has done with social security etc. etc. Perhaps we should get rid of the golf course or the additional facilities we keep buying/building!
Elizabeth O'Fallon August 16, 2011 at 03:07 am
Absolutely agree RM!
FloRes August 16, 2011 at 03:27 pm
J Carney, the Florissant Valley Fire Protection District has no affiliation with the City of Florissant. It is a completely separate entity and a completely separate level of government which is paid for through real estate and personal property taxes.
I am curious how taxes and fees are "hidden" when they are completely itemized on your monthly statement. RM, when the Council raised the utility tax inorder to balance the city's budget last year the ordinance did not tie the funds received from utility tax to any specific budget expense item, therefore, I question whether there really is a surplus. The article simply states that revenues are higher than expected. The cost of fuel is higher than expected as was the cost of salt for all the winter storms. What happens if sales tax revenues are down. The budget year will not end until November 30 and that will be the only time anyone would be able to determine if there has actually been a surplus.
Julie August 17, 2011 at 12:38 am
I agree with FloRes.. People want to keep North County vibrant and keep families here instead of across the river... So staffing up (or God forbid.. paying police officers what they deserve)... is a great way to re-invest. Residents want to see patrol officers more and feel protected...
J Carney August 17, 2011 at 01:03 pm
FloRes, the point I was trying to make is some cities operate their own fire departments. You stated to Ms. O'Fallon the reason her tax bill was so high was due to HSD. I replied to you that we in Florissant have the Florissant Valley Fire Protection District on our real estate and personal property taxes which makes out tax bills higher than cities who don't live in a fire district and have their own city operated fire departments. I know Florissant hasn't run the fire department in over forty years. Regarding to what I call "hidden" fees and taxes" I am referring to things on utility bills that are itemized but mostly overlooked by most people. They just look at the amount due on their bills without taking time to read what they're being charged for. Take for instance on cell phone and land line phone bills have add ons that people don't know what they are. For instance the charges on the phone bills that go to pay for people who can't afford a cell phone to get a free phone and 250 minutes a month. Some people aren't as smart as you to read the explanations and details on their bill.
J Carney August 17, 2011 at 01:09 pm
The free cell phones are for low income people who want a free cell phone. It's not a tax but federal fee that cell companies pass onto their customers.
RM August 17, 2011 at 10:09 pm
I am thankful that we live in a country where this discussion and differing opinions are allowed, however, FloRes, our opinions of government performing honestly with their citizens, are very different. When the council raised the utility tax it was because they forsaw that the 5% was going to be a shortfall not that they needed to staff an entirely diffferent department! I don't always get what I want but I expect honesty from my elected officials. If we need more money for staffing, make the case for staffing, if we need more funds for police, make the case, and let the chips fall where they may.
RM August 17, 2011 at 10:18 pm
Perhaps instead of "robbing peter to pay paul" so to speak, we should look back to the audit that was done on Florissant that listed many things that were being done that were not in the best interest of the citizens of Florissant but were technically not illegal because of the "strong mayor" form of government that we current have. Perhaps the city should ALWAYS operate in the best interest of it's represented citizens.

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